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Will a motherboard that will run Phenom also run Phenom II?

Q: Will a motherboard that will run Phenom also run Phenom II?

I am going to upgrade to a new processor soon and I was just wondering if my motherboard will run a Phenom II processor. It will run a Phenom processor and also Phenom FX, which hasn't even been released yet, so it seems like it would run most new AMD processors.

Here is the motherboard:


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A: Will a motherboard that will run Phenom also run Phenom II?

It most propably won't. You will at least need a BIOS update. Actually it will. :O
Go here: search for your motherboard, choose WinXP (or any other, as it doesn't even matter), choose BIOS [BIOS history], choose the latest, 1001, BIOS, download. Then... I'm not sure, but you might need a floppy drive to update the BIOS, though some newer board can be done with a USB drive.
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I like MSI but that's just me.
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A:Phenom CPU what Motherboard compliments?

A Phenom CPU is not the best choice for a gaming PC. A 45nm Core 2 Duo like the E8400 will be cheaper and significantly faster as well. The E8400 is available in a combo with the ASUS P5Q Pro on Newegg for around $300, which is an excellent price for such a fast CPU and a Crossfire-capable motherboard. There are cheaper options too like the E5200 and the E7200, which can be paired with a cheaper motherboard like the GA-EP43-DS3L. All the 45nm CPUs OC easily to 3GHz without much voltage tweaking and will far outclass AMD products in the same price range.

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Have you contacted Asus to see what they have to say, and if necessary RMA the board?

If you want a new board, how much are you looking to spend?
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A:Phenom II X6 1090T and motherboard choices - comments?

Hi sethbest,
If you want a little perspective from someone who owns that combo, here ya go. The 1055t is the best price/performance of the X6 lineup. They are the same CPU's just with different factory clocks. they all OC to the same frequency (4.0-4.2Ghz) I purchased the 1055T because I just don't like to pay for someone else to do the OC'ing. The Formula IV is purely an OC board with all of the bells and whistles. it will completely take the fun out of OC'ing if you want it to. It does however have USB 3.0 support, and 42 PCIE lanes if you require that, or are planning on running a multi GPU setup. It is a stellar board both in features and build quality, and you will get the maximum OC out of whatever CPU you drop in there. For me , the Formula IV was worth the $$$, But I run 3x GPU and OC the hell out of everything, so that's a call for you to make. if you are not going to be heavily OC'ing, you can save some money and go with the MB (or similar)I linked to below.
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BTW, where are you seeing the Crosshair Formula IV for 170.00? 50001314&IsNodeId=1&name=GIGABYTE

And here is a review of the Crosshair Formula IV with the 1090T/1055T check out how it does against the I7's OC'ed. I have mine clocked just slightly higher than this benchmark.
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A:Is the AMD Phenom II x6 1100T compatible with the MSI 785GM-E51 motherboard?

Yes, the link below contains the CPU support list for the motherboard in question. Just as a pointer to you or others that may view this thread in the future; you can always search the website of your motherboard manufacturer and then check the CPU support list and QVL (Qualified Vending list) for compatible memory before purchasing items.

CPU support list:
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Try this site.

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A:AMD Phenom II X 4 955 drivers

ZT doesn't give enough info about that model,

Product Detail Info

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ZT also doesn't make it easy to get whatever they have for downloads without making an account with them,

Sign In

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A:AMD Phenom CPU Upgrade

From your motherboard's manual:

So you will be able to use a CPU which has the AM3 Socket type. I'd look at an Athlon 64, one of those should be your best bet.

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A:Phenom and vista 64

Originally Posted by Chazb

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Check my signature below for the mains specifications of my computer. I'm running and AMD Phenom 9600 Quad with Windows Vista Ultimate x64, and have no problems.

The only problem I had with my computer (that I built only a few days ago), was with the hardware. The BIOS displayed my Phenom x64 as 1.6GHz per core CPU. A quick visit to ASUS website corrected that problem, one BIOS update later, and it now shows correctly as 2.3GHz per core.

The biggest factor that you should be aware of that could be a problem is the availability of x64 drivers for all your hardware, which from the look of things, shouldn't be a problem.

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guitto said:

Does AMD's chipset that supports the quad core also support PCI-e 2.0? I know it supports DDR3, but Ive seen some Mobos with 4 PCI - E x 16 slots, what is this?Click to expand...

Crossfire motherboard. Wouldn't surprise me if it supports PCI-e 2, and I wouldn't get DDR3 anytime soon, its really expensive and doesn't offer much of a performance increase over DDR2.
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I don't think software will pick up the Black Edition extension. Black Edition just means it has an unlocked multiplier
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Raven 03 Computer Case
AMD Phenom II 965 Black Edition 54-90C
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8GB Mushkin
WD Velociraptor - 40-50C
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A:Overheating CPU, AMD Phenom 965

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Pls help.

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why cant you just get rid of the bios version you useing and update it back to the original one sometimes manufactuars dont recommend updating the bios i dont know why but some of them do
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so my questions r. is there much difference in performance between the 2?
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this is the mobo im using Gigabyte 880GA-UD3H rev 3.1

thanks in advance for ur help folks

A:which phenom black

No, there won't be any noticeable difference between 3.2Ghz and 3.4 Ghz, but they are very close in price, so go with the 965 Black Edition. I have one and ran it to 4.0Ghz, but I don't play games.

Just checked Newegg and there is $21USD difference.
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Due to which my PC is very slow.

i Have :-

Due to this temp, it is not even getting to its half the potential & just ****in crazy slow.

i Have one BiG 120mm fan {there is only 1fan space}, a good Heat Sink which comes with the processor & one side of my CPU is alwayz open to pass some amount of air

So pls. guyz tell me what else is there


Quote: Originally Posted by dharmil007

i Have one BiG 120mm fan {there is only 1fan space}, a good Heat Sink which comes with the processor & one side of my CPU is alwayz open to pass some amount of air

This can cause an issue in its self cases are designed with airflow in mind leaving a side off the machine can affect airflow and cooling, try putting the case side back on and see how the temps are then.
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playing game while ripping dvd or while scanning pc
ripping dvd and scanning pc while browsing the internet.

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A:AMD Phenom x2 555 or Athlon x4 640

playing game while ripping dvd or while scanning pcClick to expand...

You're so screwed no matter which CPU, definitely going to notice hiccups from your harddrive.

So that makes your question pretty moot.
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Probably not as there isn't a single CPU in the supported list,

ASUSTeK Computer Inc. - Motherboards - M2A-VM

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A:Phenom II 1090T about to be sent for RMA

Hi there
1) the fact that the Athlon worked (and still works) shows there isn't a problem per se with the MOBO.

2) with the new CPU there are IMO two main options :

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can this be overclocking or not ???

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Chipset drivers (?)

ASUSTeK Computer Inc. -Support- Drivers and Download M4A77TD
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A:Phenom 965BE vs i5 760!

Qmark said:

Hi guys , i wanted to go For i5 760 + ATI 6870 but i found AMD 965BE as great gaming option & better match for ATI 6870 ! both are using AMD Gpus so they can be easily matched !Click to expand...

I'm sorry, but thats total rubbish.

Your GPU (whether Nvidia or AMD/ATi) will work absolutely fine with any chipset for either CPU manufacturers. The only thing that's dependant on the motherboard for GPU support is enough free PCI Express sockets, and compatibility with SLI/CF when using multiple GPUs.

A HD6870 will work equally well with an AMD CPU, as it will with a Intel CPU.*

*This is taking into consideration the hardware has the performance to run the GPU at maximum. A 1.2GHz Celeron would unlikely release the full potential of any midrange or above GPU.

Qmark said:

but i little worry about losing a huge performance while i am playing Heavy games like GTA IV or ARMA 2 , specialy when Crowded Battle Step in ! i am sure that i5 760 will handle those games , & because my Res is low ( 1440 ) then my game would Cause more Pressure on my CPU instead of doing that thing to my GPU !Click to expand...

Like I said, it makes no difference to the GPU. The i5 is better because it is the better CPU.

Qmark said:

Phenom get Less Fps than i5 760 in almost all bench marks , but havnt you seen that some times you see huge Bench mark difference Between forexample 5970 & 5830 , but both can run ( for example ) COD 4 same ! so it doesnt matter you get 5830 or 5970 , they will do same for that game ,.Click to expand...

Don't fool yourself, the GPUs make a difference, or they wouldn't be used, or sold to begin with.

The HD5970 is considerably better than the HD5830, in part because it has two GPU cores (I think its two 5850's on one board!), not just one.
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2x 2gb DDR3 Samsung 1333Mhz

Stock clocks and voltages:

200Mhz FSB
2000Mhz HT and NB
1.32v CPU
1.5v RAM
1.2v CPU-NB

Currently I am running stable:

FSB @ 280Mhz,
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CPU @ 3.50Ghz @ 1.42v (AMD's Safe Maximum) & 2Mb of cache unlocked
RAM @ 1120Mhz @ 8,8,8,20,30 timings @ 1.6v @ 1:2 ratio

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A:Picking my CPU - i5 vs. Phenom II

Hi, could you just give use more info about your computer?
The X6 destroys the i5 in some areas...but not very many.

Make sure to include budget (and if you want a monitor, os, peripherals...), and intended use. i5 and X6 is a really close battle.

Also, if anybody has an easy way of picking a PSU, I would love you to death. I've always considered myself somewhat tech savvy, but trying to figure out power consumption has made me with otherwise. I can't even find how much power the motherboard uses!Click to expand...

Motherboard hardly takes any power, we'll figure out a powersupply after we set some other components.

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Good .
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Google how to overclock x4.

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Any feedback would be welcome.

Thank you all.

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in order to unlock the disabled cores you need a motherboard with the 750 southbridge.the 750 SB gives you ACC ( Advanced clock calibration) to activate the disabled cores. don't get your hopes up too high though, most of the time the cores have been disabled for a reason, either they will not unlock at all, or they are damaged and will lead to system instability, or lower the overclock potential. I own three of these AMD cpu's and that has been the case with all of them. you could get lucky and get a 'good one' in that they took a healthy quad and simply relabeled because of demand for that price point, but it would be wise to assumes that when you purchase a X2 550, that is what you will get, anything else is a bonus.
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I live in India and my options would probably be limited to Cooler Master. However, I'd like to know what other brands I could consider.


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OCZ Blade Edition 2x2GB Memory
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jcox20 said:

I have a phenom 9500. I have it overclocked, believe it or not to 4 ghz. I have the multiplier set to x20 and its running stable. The only thing im wondering about is when i run cpu z it still reports that the cpu is running at the stock 2.2 ghz although windows vista shows 4 ghz as does my bios. So is my computer actually running this fast or is it a lier? Any help is appreciated.Click to expand...

I really doubt its running at 4.0GHz. Something is definitely reporting false information. I can't get my 9600 to run a multiplier of 13 stable, so 20 is more than hard to believe. No one has gotten any of the Phenom's anywhere close to 4GHz. The highest clocked Phenom world wide is a 9850BE at 3.6GHz, 1,100MHz OC on water. Check out this thread:

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A:Going from 6400+ X2 to Phenom X4 9850?

According to this list on Asus's site it shows 3 different versions of the M2N32 that are AM2+ compatible. It seems that you will need to update your BIOS but you should be able to drop in a phenom with no problems.

But I seriously doubt that going from 2 to 4 cores will help in fps in games. As far as I know most games dont properly use 2 cores yet let alone 4 cores. I would advise that if you want higher fps in games to either get another 8800GT for SLI, or look into the new GPU's from ATI Nvidia.
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We have a sister forum specifically for Windows 10 issues.
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Don't believe all of the marketing hype. Both have their strengths and weaknesses, and the fanbois of each will tell you why one is better than the other.

The i7 has eight virtual cores, the Phenom has 6. The Intel will perform better at certain tasks than the Phenom. In the end, it's a price/performance issue.

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I consider myself fairly unbiased, so there's my $.02

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first of all mate you wont have 10Ghz processor speed you will have 4 x 2.5Ghz , quad core processors dont work that way mate

download this CPUID it will tell you all you need to know , heres a screenie of mine so you can see what i mean . notice the "cores" bottom right......
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Have you lowered the ram speed/divider to remove the ram from the overclocking equation?

Next have you set the pci lock?

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What does it show where I have it circled?
(Start>run>msconfig - Boot, then advanced options.
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Hello there.

Processors don't have drivers.

Could you upload a Screenshot with the CPU tab in the Resource Monitor? and sort it by CPU (descending) to see which processes are using it.
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A:BSOD Win 7 AMD Phenom II, Gigabyte MB

Quote: Originally Posted by zxmike99

My Windows 7 64 Bit crashes randomly. I say randomly, its mostly on start up when the PC is cold. Once its up and running, its fine and can run all day without crashing. I even tried rebooting and rebooting to see if it would crash when warm but it doesn't !

I have been working with Microsoft Tech Support for nearly a week now disabling all thrid party drivers etc. but I suspect this is a HW problem somewhere. Is it possible to be temperature related ? Not suggesting any cooling problems just seems worse when PC is cold.

I am also concernced having read threads in the this forum as many of the BSOD posts relate to AMD Phenom II processors and a few to Gigabyte MBs. I have updated to the latest F6 MB BIOS today and I still have crashes on start up.

The STOP errors vary but most are Page Fault in non paged area and PFN List corrupt errors.

This has been going on for a few weeks now. Ive done start up repairs, rebuilt from the CD's, CHKDSK, Memory tests etc etc and haven't found anything !

The MB, Processor, memory & PSU are new. Both SATA drives have been used in a previous system although the system with the 500GB Western Digital drive did have occasional crashes under XP. Windows 7 was a clean install and the system has been run on the 200GB Maxtor with the WD unplugged and still crashes.

Any suggestions ?

Should have said - updated BIOS today because System also sometimes hangs on boot I think when detecting SATA drives. Have also updaed AMD SATA Driver.

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Maxtor L200M0 200GB Sata II Drive PSU Win Power PSU 500W 20 + 24 pin ATX12V 12cm fan SATA

You have several causes to the crash but most point back to memory. When you tested the memory what app did you use and for how long?

I would
download memtestx86 and run it for at least 5 passes.
run a system file check.

to do that type cmd in search>right click and run as admins>sfc /scannow (note the space between the sfc and "/")

If this doesnt fix the situation we can get more agressive by using driver verifier.

If you are overclocking stop. If you have set your ram voltages to something other than default set them back to default.

Let us know the results


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031210-18813-01.dmp 3/12/2010 11:15:04 PM MEMORY_MANAGEMENT 0x0000001a 00000000`00041284 00000000`12b30001 00000000`00007a0f fffff700`01080000 ntoskrnl.exe ntoskrnl.exe+71f00 x64 C:\Users\K\Desktop\New folder (3)\031210-18813-01.dmp 2 15 7600
031710-28516-01.dmp 3/17/2010 7:23:22 PM NTFS_FILE_SYSTEM 0x00000024 00000000`001904fb fffff880`062925d8 fffff880`06291e30 fffff800`02ef2ed7 Ntfs.sys Ntfs.sys+213d8 x64 C:\Users\K\Desktop\New folder (3)\031710-28516-01.dmp 2 15 7600
031210-23228-01.dmp 3/12/2010 10:56:08 PM PFN_LIST_CORRUPT 0x0000004e 00000000`00000099 00000000`0011f36e 00000000`00000002 00000000`0011f36d ntoskrnl.exe ntoskrnl.exe+71f00 x64 C:\Users\K\Desktop\New folder (3)\031210-23228-01.dmp 2 15 7600
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